Welcome to night 5. Madrigals came tonight. No one selling snacks.
(OK, I don't think I have these in order. Like the other ones, these are my rough notes. I didn't go back to edit them, and now it is a year too late.)
John Leone - 22 articles left, should be able to finish tonight if we try hard
Diane Mahon - meeting continues to Wednesday, but hands in prayer that we finish tonight
ARFRR - Arlington residents for reasonable redevelopment
Porchfest
Al Tosti - Patrolman's bargaining accepted
No Reports
(OK, I don't think I have these in order. Like the other ones, these are my rough notes. I didn't go back to edit them, and now it is a year too late.)
John Leone - 22 articles left, should be able to finish tonight if we try hard
Diane Mahon - meeting continues to Wednesday, but hands in prayer that we finish tonight
ARFRR - Arlington residents for reasonable redevelopment
Porchfest
Al Tosti - Patrolman's bargaining accepted
No Reports
Article 37 (continued)
Christopher Moore - recruiting process (TM) process for selection in and outside of CS, support, assessment center
Bill Hayner - opposed, exam sets criteria, 3-4 grade teacher shouldn't be eligible
John Deist - move question, term deb yes (voice uncertain) (109-90)
Charlie Fosket - opposed, not broken enough to take whole departments out, only the police chief
Joe Tully - opposed, protection against political agendas
Betty Stone - support, assures open and competitive process, safety for everyone, best fit, largest pool
John Leonard - opposed, home rule required? (DH) no, home rule was due to position not being solely a chief
Gordon Jameson - supports, Maher & Moore persuasive, search should be broader than just department
Pete Guest - focus seems to be on ability to fire, rather than to hire, (DM) chief needs autonomy
Steve DeCoursey - opposed, expectation set that position will remain in CS, standard for termination, just cause removal
Bob Jefferson - Fire Chief, opposed, need strong independent voice, make strong equitable decisions, under a different TM, this could be a very different discussion
Jordan Weinstein - personal service agreement? (TM) yes, just cause firing, police chief is different from fire chief, concern about ICE and police involved shooting, Pedrini issue (poly-phobic), with that context, town needs to be able to assert control, support
Annie LaCourt - former APD hired as chief in other communities (TM) non-CS hires, who decides if OK to hire other than top candidate (TM) state CS commission, could we fire if policy against will of town (TM) appeal-able to CS board, (DH) other legal protections exist if outside CS, should be allowed to fully negotiate
Mark McCabe - opposed (not terminate - soo-prise, soo-prise, soo-prise) people enter to serve, take tests to improve themselves, to take chief out of contention, cuts morale, hire someone who doesn't know heart and pulse of time
Bob Redocia - oppose, similar to McCabe and Foskett, should be someone who comes up through the ranks, police and fire most important public safety organizations
Timor Yantar - inserted at request of town manager, why? (TM) flexibility, accountability, CS not used in 30+ years, committed to hire from within for this cycle, support
Steve Revelak - what positions are hired under CS (TM) complete FD and APD ranks
Samantha /Deutcher - opposed, studies change in organization, too much disruption is detrimental
Eric Helmuth - move question, term deb yes (voice)
Vote no (126-81)
Christopher Moore - recruiting process (TM) process for selection in and outside of CS, support, assessment center
Bill Hayner - opposed, exam sets criteria, 3-4 grade teacher shouldn't be eligible
John Deist - move question, term deb yes (voice uncertain) (109-90)
Charlie Fosket - opposed, not broken enough to take whole departments out, only the police chief
Joe Tully - opposed, protection against political agendas
Betty Stone - support, assures open and competitive process, safety for everyone, best fit, largest pool
John Leonard - opposed, home rule required? (DH) no, home rule was due to position not being solely a chief
Gordon Jameson - supports, Maher & Moore persuasive, search should be broader than just department
Pete Guest - focus seems to be on ability to fire, rather than to hire, (DM) chief needs autonomy
Steve DeCoursey - opposed, expectation set that position will remain in CS, standard for termination, just cause removal
Bob Jefferson - Fire Chief, opposed, need strong independent voice, make strong equitable decisions, under a different TM, this could be a very different discussion
Jordan Weinstein - personal service agreement? (TM) yes, just cause firing, police chief is different from fire chief, concern about ICE and police involved shooting, Pedrini issue (poly-phobic), with that context, town needs to be able to assert control, support
Annie LaCourt - former APD hired as chief in other communities (TM) non-CS hires, who decides if OK to hire other than top candidate (TM) state CS commission, could we fire if policy against will of town (TM) appeal-able to CS board, (DH) other legal protections exist if outside CS, should be allowed to fully negotiate
Mark McCabe - opposed (not terminate - soo-prise, soo-prise, soo-prise) people enter to serve, take tests to improve themselves, to take chief out of contention, cuts morale, hire someone who doesn't know heart and pulse of time
Bob Redocia - oppose, similar to McCabe and Foskett, should be someone who comes up through the ranks, police and fire most important public safety organizations
Timor Yantar - inserted at request of town manager, why? (TM) flexibility, accountability, CS not used in 30+ years, committed to hire from within for this cycle, support
Steve Revelak - what positions are hired under CS (TM) complete FD and APD ranks
Samantha /Deutcher - opposed, studies change in organization, too much disruption is detrimental
Eric Helmuth - move question, term deb yes (voice)
Vote no (126-81)
Article 34 Reconsideration
Schlictman - meeting unaware amendment would prohibit certain existing practices
no (85-93)
Schlictman - meeting unaware amendment would prohibit certain existing practices
no (85-93)
Article 38
TM - increase limit tax deferment , set to highest threshold
Sophie M - only 12 benefit today, how many could be added, not certain how many, but 12 is really low, deferment paid upon sale of property with interest (3.5%)
Christopher Moore - how does mortgage enter into equation, bank would need to sign off, does this limit participation, hard to determine, encourage town to figure out if there are issues
Michael Quinn - program for seniors May 23, in favor, better communication could lead to more participation
John Worden - great program, allows people to stay in home
Vote: yes (207-2)
TM - increase limit tax deferment , set to highest threshold
Sophie M - only 12 benefit today, how many could be added, not certain how many, but 12 is really low, deferment paid upon sale of property with interest (3.5%)
Christopher Moore - how does mortgage enter into equation, bank would need to sign off, does this limit participation, hard to determine, encourage town to figure out if there are issues
Michael Quinn - program for seniors May 23, in favor, better communication could lead to more participation
John Worden - great program, allows people to stay in home
Vote: yes (207-2)
Article 39: Library Art Print Collection - Given in 1890's
Director - sell before value reaches $0, will of Winfield Robbins care and increase of prints 1925, first concerns, 1946, not worth cataloguing, many prints at National Portrait Gallery, laid off curator, BPL and Harvard both encourage dropping prints, vexed town for too long
Gordon Jameson - any Rembrandt in attic? No, Smithsonian gets to keep
Vote: yes (186-7)
Director - sell before value reaches $0, will of Winfield Robbins care and increase of prints 1925, first concerns, 1946, not worth cataloguing, many prints at National Portrait Gallery, laid off curator, BPL and Harvard both encourage dropping prints, vexed town for too long
Gordon Jameson - any Rembrandt in attic? No, Smithsonian gets to keep
Vote: yes (186-7)
Break
Article 40: Library Parking
Fisher - former 2hr/1/2hr, now 4hr, no free 15 minutes, resourced can park at library, others cannot, fees create barriers and reinforcement distinctions between users, Libraries now fine-free, visit shouldn't cost $1/hr, resolution
Michelle Dirocher - did library notice any changes in feedback (L) more turnover, complaints about cost, relied on parking committee, wouldn't want to see lower cost at risk of abuse
James O'Conor - appreciates desire to increase access, library wants to increase users, how do we include everyone? encourage town to find a way to make this happen
Rodderick Holland - meters at free public library bothers people, supports
Mustafa V - supports, could validation work?
Paul Schlictman - term deb yes (voice)
Substitute Motion: yes (121-61)
Vote: yes (125-52)
Fisher - former 2hr/1/2hr, now 4hr, no free 15 minutes, resourced can park at library, others cannot, fees create barriers and reinforcement distinctions between users, Libraries now fine-free, visit shouldn't cost $1/hr, resolution
Michelle Dirocher - did library notice any changes in feedback (L) more turnover, complaints about cost, relied on parking committee, wouldn't want to see lower cost at risk of abuse
James O'Conor - appreciates desire to increase access, library wants to increase users, how do we include everyone? encourage town to find a way to make this happen
Rodderick Holland - meters at free public library bothers people, supports
Mustafa V - supports, could validation work?
Paul Schlictman - term deb yes (voice)
Substitute Motion: yes (121-61)
Vote: yes (125-52)
Article 41: no action (voice)
Article 43: Senior Tax Exemption
TM - home rule based on Sudbury / Concord model, redistribute burden from some seniors onto all others, would need to go before voters, depending on number of participants could increase bills by ~$65
Steve Revelak - income limit is ~70% of AMI individual, ~93% AMI couples (TM) set by State, how do we set mean property value (TM) assessed by similar property type
John Deist - great sympathy, would like to help, why such emphasis on elderly instead of younger people (TM) cannot completely rework Prop 2.5, would be surprised if State would allow individual towns to jiggle formula; that's what was figures
Sophie M - same people as deferral? (TM) 968 qualify, unknown number would benefit; could use both exemption and deferral (TM) yes; impact would vary based on property value (TM) yes
Charles H (1) - does wealth as opposed to income come into account (DH) application should account for that at State level; (TM) exemption also in bylaw language
Michael Quinn - many have zero assets apart from home, circuit breaker doesn't have asset requirements
John Worden - cannot pay real estate taxes from Social Security, suprised at number of people with home and nothing else, supports
Gorden Jameson - circuit breaker is more complicated than just having low income, should mimic state circuit breaker formula
James O'Conor - state pension does count against circuit breaker credit, house rich - cash poor
Anne Fitzgerald - white-haired senior, O'Conor's comments informative, windfall elimination tax can reduce social security, need to help seniors, keeping seniors in their home means one fewer student household
Paul Schlictman - term deb yes (voice)
Vote: yes (188-5)
TM - home rule based on Sudbury / Concord model, redistribute burden from some seniors onto all others, would need to go before voters, depending on number of participants could increase bills by ~$65
Steve Revelak - income limit is ~70% of AMI individual, ~93% AMI couples (TM) set by State, how do we set mean property value (TM) assessed by similar property type
John Deist - great sympathy, would like to help, why such emphasis on elderly instead of younger people (TM) cannot completely rework Prop 2.5, would be surprised if State would allow individual towns to jiggle formula; that's what was figures
Sophie M - same people as deferral? (TM) 968 qualify, unknown number would benefit; could use both exemption and deferral (TM) yes; impact would vary based on property value (TM) yes
Charles H (1) - does wealth as opposed to income come into account (DH) application should account for that at State level; (TM) exemption also in bylaw language
Michael Quinn - many have zero assets apart from home, circuit breaker doesn't have asset requirements
John Worden - cannot pay real estate taxes from Social Security, suprised at number of people with home and nothing else, supports
Gorden Jameson - circuit breaker is more complicated than just having low income, should mimic state circuit breaker formula
James O'Conor - state pension does count against circuit breaker credit, house rich - cash poor
Anne Fitzgerald - white-haired senior, O'Conor's comments informative, windfall elimination tax can reduce social security, need to help seniors, keeping seniors in their home means one fewer student household
Paul Schlictman - term deb yes (voice)
Vote: yes (188-5)
Article 44: no action yes (voice)
Article 45: extend voting rights to legal permanent residents
Paul Schlictman - (Ben Rudick) home rule petition to allow town voting by all legal residents without regard to citizenship, simple fairness, wouldn't Arlington benefit from hearing from all residents, non-resident voting used to be more accepted, no longer since 1928, state needs to act
Rieco Tenaka - very important, Japanese immigrant, student to citizen in 28 years, paid taxes right away, many foreign countries do not allow dual-citizenship
Jim Detulia (12) - supports motivation, has reservations, talking to recently naturalized citizen, Form N-400, section 12, question 2 "Have you ever registered to Vote?", question 3 "Have you ever voted", same section as other disqualifying questions, make sure we are not harming prospective citizens, leave up to newly established committee
Michael Ruderman - proponent has a persuasive and dynamic presentation, engaged taxpayers deserve to vote, how do we decide who is worthy, pathway to citizenship should be followed, good and serious reasons to vote no
Timor Yontar - is this legal? (DH) home rule petition can be enacted to change state voting requirements,; symbolic? (DH) not wholly, but not likely to pass, state needs to act
Muldoon? - state has disenfranchised felons, working to get right to vote back, this is a great progressive action by TMM to encourage the state to move, welcomes opinions of all residents, franchising good, (BR) will accomplish nothing until state acts; citizenship application question (BR) if state approves, federal government would need to consider how question is evaluated
Ian B(?) - how would the practical side of voting work, any separate procedures (D Mahon) would be entirely same (TM) former election commissioner, new code in voting registry for local only voters
Sophie M - immigrant, became a citizen to vote, if you can vote without being a citizen, why bother, what is citizenship to each of us.
John Worden - may have multiple homes without voting in all locations, all kids married foreigners, if you want to be engaged, you can become a citizen, may be more complicated, but it can be done
Moore - term deb yes (voice)
Vote yes (131-51)
Paul Schlictman - (Ben Rudick) home rule petition to allow town voting by all legal residents without regard to citizenship, simple fairness, wouldn't Arlington benefit from hearing from all residents, non-resident voting used to be more accepted, no longer since 1928, state needs to act
Rieco Tenaka - very important, Japanese immigrant, student to citizen in 28 years, paid taxes right away, many foreign countries do not allow dual-citizenship
Jim Detulia (12) - supports motivation, has reservations, talking to recently naturalized citizen, Form N-400, section 12, question 2 "Have you ever registered to Vote?", question 3 "Have you ever voted", same section as other disqualifying questions, make sure we are not harming prospective citizens, leave up to newly established committee
Michael Ruderman - proponent has a persuasive and dynamic presentation, engaged taxpayers deserve to vote, how do we decide who is worthy, pathway to citizenship should be followed, good and serious reasons to vote no
Timor Yontar - is this legal? (DH) home rule petition can be enacted to change state voting requirements,; symbolic? (DH) not wholly, but not likely to pass, state needs to act
Muldoon? - state has disenfranchised felons, working to get right to vote back, this is a great progressive action by TMM to encourage the state to move, welcomes opinions of all residents, franchising good, (BR) will accomplish nothing until state acts; citizenship application question (BR) if state approves, federal government would need to consider how question is evaluated
Ian B(?) - how would the practical side of voting work, any separate procedures (D Mahon) would be entirely same (TM) former election commissioner, new code in voting registry for local only voters
Sophie M - immigrant, became a citizen to vote, if you can vote without being a citizen, why bother, what is citizenship to each of us.
John Worden - may have multiple homes without voting in all locations, all kids married foreigners, if you want to be engaged, you can become a citizen, may be more complicated, but it can be done
Moore - term deb yes (voice)
Vote yes (131-51)
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